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user banned Logan, Utah 3594 posts
Apr 18th '13
Quoting Rafael's Mommy ♥:" A girl posted a video of her s*****g on a used tampon."


ewwwwwww

Kelly&Coralie 1 child; Rochester, NY, United States 56012 posts
Apr 18th '13
Quoting Emily Dickinson:" As an elementary teacher, I do worry. Not for the reasons you listed but because kids don't seem to have ... [snip!] ... they don't feel remorse. They simply justify their actions by attempting to point the finger at a "more" negative choice."



Exactly. There seems to be no personal accountability anymore



"If i did this, it's cause xxxxxx and is not my fault"



1inpink3inblue Due December 7 (boy); 3 kids; Switzerland 13391 posts
Apr 18th '13
Quoting Emily Dickinson:" As an elementary teacher, I do worry. Not for the reasons you listed but because kids don't seem to have ... [snip!] ... they don't feel remorse. They simply justify their actions by attempting to point the finger at a "more" negative choice."


That is sad. But I know it is right. I remember grown up how my mom and all the other parents we knew pumped good manors and sympathy in to our heads. The first time I saw a kid that didn't do what they were told by an adult as soon as they were told to do it I was in shock (and i was 8 by then). Now it is even worse. People are so determined to get their kid the latest crap and not have them left out. Kids are entitled and selfish no it is sick. I think we need to bring spanking back. Parents are to damn soft now a days.

Emily Dickinson 18 kids; Indiana 57854 posts
Apr 18th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Kelly&Coralie:</b>" Exactly. There seems to be no personal accountability anymore "If i did this, it's cause xxxxxx and is not my fault" "</blockquote>




But parents don't to teach accountability. When kids get bad grades, its the teachers fault now. When a child makes a bad choice, they want to know "who made them do it." Kids aren't held to the same standard we were.

HamHam 18 kids; India 3485 posts
Apr 18th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Emily Dickinson:</b>" As an elementary teacher, I do worry. Not for the reasons you listed but because kids don't seem to have ... [snip!] ... they don't feel remorse. They simply justify their actions by attempting to point the finger at a "more" negative choice."</blockquote>




In my opinion, those values you just mentioned are what's missing, and that is frightening. They bully because they have no remorse, compassion, etc. It's as if there's no motivation or incentive to just be a decent person. I sometimes feel like society is no longer set up to accomodate the decent ones... It's all about being recognized for the wrong & short-lived reasons.

Brantley+Savannah 2 kids; Mills River, NC, United States 3119 posts
Apr 18th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Emily Dickinson:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mrs. Mallard+ 1 1/2:</b>" And this is why I stick to my small ... [snip!] ... you. Until a method lab exploded with teenagers nearby. I was exposed to far more in a small town than I ever was in the city."</blockquote>




I grew up in a small town but I've lived in the city as well and I've seen way worse stuff and seen teens doing WAY worse stuff in the city then I ever did in my hometown. The worse thing we ever did was go to a party and get drunk and some smoked weed. And I'm talking like 2 gas stations and school and that's it small town. Our entire school 7th-12th grade only had 400 people. Only 60 in my class and that was after we consolidated with the school in the next town over.

Tig Ol' Bitties Due June 16 (girl); 2 kids; 1 angel baby; d***o,, NF, Canada 4057 posts
Apr 18th '13

No.



People did all the same or equally dumb shit back in the day we just didn't have the same access to technology.

Emily Dickinson 18 kids; Indiana 57854 posts
Apr 18th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting 1inpink2inblue:</b>" That is sad. But I know it is right. I remember grown up how my mom and all the other parents we knew ... [snip!] ... out. Kids are entitled and selfish no it is sick. I think we need to bring spanking back. Parents are to damn soft now a days."</blockquote>




Do you know how shocked I was when a student told me he wasn't going go do something I asked? I had no idea how to respond because I can't even fathom talking to a teacher like that.

Kelly&Coralie 1 child; Rochester, NY, United States 56012 posts
Apr 18th '13
Quoting Emily Dickinson:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Kelly&Coralie:</b>" Exactly. There seems to be no personal ... [snip!] ... now. When a child makes a bad choice, they want to know "who made them do it." Kids aren't held to the same standard we were."


I am trying my best to hold Cora to a higher standard. I expect manners and curtesy from her. And if she doesn't act appropriately, then a punishment ensues.



I only hope that she turns out to be a good kid. I know good parenting can only go so far.

_______Nope_________ 23772 posts
Apr 18th '13
Quoting HamHam:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Emily Dickinson:</b>" As an elementary teacher, I do worry. ... [snip!] ... is no longer set up to accomodate the decent ones... It's all about being recognized for the wrong & short-lived reasons."


Do you think kids were not bullied before? I know my Mom talks about having been bullied before. Of course, they used to beat the crap out of you more than they typically do now. . . This was back in the day when they paddled you in school (she was the ONLY girl to have ever been paddled, lol). I think when we get older we tend to romanticize our past. It becomes the "good ole days" and we forget that all of this stuff was out there too.



I think we're just more aware of it now.

1inpink3inblue Due December 7 (boy); 3 kids; Switzerland 13391 posts
Apr 18th '13
Quoting Emily Dickinson:" <blockquote><b>Quoting 1inpink2inblue:</b>" That is sad. But I know it is right. I ... [snip!] ... wasn't going go do something I asked? I had no idea how to respond because I can't even fathom talking to a teacher like that."


My mom would have spanked me so hard I wouldn't have been able to walk for a week.

user banned Logan, Utah 3594 posts
Apr 18th '13
Quoting she nan igans:" Do you think kids were not bullied before? I know my Mom talks about having been bullied before. Of ... [snip!] ... becomes the "good ole days" and we forget that all of this stuff was out there too. I think we're just more aware of it now."


I think kids bully now more mentally then they did back then, I think back then is was more physical... I think the suicide rates from it now are alot higher and that's what is scary

Kelly&Coralie 1 child; Rochester, NY, United States 56012 posts
Apr 18th '13
Quoting 1inpink2inblue:" My mom would have spanked me so hard I wouldn't have been able to walk for a week. "


I can't even imagine talking back to a teacher or refusing to do work. I don't know what my mom would have done cause it never happened. You just didn't do that.



You could cuss out your teacher behind her back with your chums but when she asked you to jump, you said how high

1inpink3inblue Due December 7 (boy); 3 kids; Switzerland 13391 posts
Apr 18th '13
Quoting she nan igans:" Do you think kids were not bullied before? I know my Mom talks about having been bullied before. Of ... [snip!] ... becomes the "good ole days" and we forget that all of this stuff was out there too. I think we're just more aware of it now."


That kind of bullying isn't the same. It was a push or a pock with the word butthead thrown in that usually ended in a fight. The shit now is just malicious and it follows you all over because of technology. Before if you were being bullied bad enough you could just change schools and that would be the end of it. Not now. And Kids are more willing to jump on board the bully bandwagon to look cool because of the anonymity. And the mental abuse is often worse then the physical.

1inpink3inblue Due December 7 (boy); 3 kids; Switzerland 13391 posts
Apr 18th '13
Quoting Kelly&Coralie:" I can't even imagine talking back to a teacher or refusing to do work. I don't know what my mom would ... [snip!] ... do that. You could cuss out your teacher behind her back with your chums but when she asked you to jump, you said how high"


damn straight.