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♔ BαtMαɳ Due April 8; Gotham, DC, United States 91103 posts
Apr 4th '13
Quoting LEGENDARY JAS ♥:" What? :? "I don't think that you should call the aborted fetus and "angel baby", though. You can't ... [snip!] ... have it both ways IMO. Either you don't believe the fetus is a baby, or you do." So what should they call it? An angel fetus?"


Considering a lot of m/c happen within the first trimester, the same time women get an abortion, I think the same term applies to both. Angel BABY.

**mummyX3** 3 kids; Australia 1246 posts
Apr 4th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting MommyToWesley:</b>" Not what I was saying. Women who get an abortion I'm assuming don't see it as killing a baby. That's the whole premise of abortion being legal."</blockquote>




I understand what ur saying i would asume that most women who have abortions see the baby as a cluster of cells and all those other terms i have seen ppl use on this site. The thought that someone would view abotion a lawfully killing their own baby and go ahead with it i find kind of disturbing... which is why i wouldnt have one

✖Mandalorian 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Georgia 5386 posts
Apr 4th '13
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♔ BαtMαɳ Due April 8; Gotham, DC, United States 91103 posts
Apr 4th '13
Quoting MommyToWesley:" So you do see getting an abortion as killing a baby?"


Yes. And?

kthx. TTC since Mar 2016; 1 child; Harrison, OH, United States 69890 posts
Apr 4th '13
Quoting MommyToWesley:" Not what I was saying. Women who get an abortion I'm assuming don't see it as killing a baby. That's the whole premise of abortion being legal."


No, it's still a baby. But it's not capable of surviving on it's own, it doesn't have brain waves, it's a parasite at best until about 24 weeks gestation, which is when abortion becomes illegal because it can survive outside of the womb.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23152 posts
Apr 4th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Big D!:</b>" This makes sense. While I personally don't call my abortions angel babies, I don't see why a woman cannot feel that hers are."</blockquote>




I feel mine aborted baby may be an angel baby, but I don't think of him/her that way nor would I put it on my profile. I don't care if others do.

MomNextDoor 2 kids; Grapevine, Texas 8351 posts
Apr 4th '13

Okay, I'm not trying to be argumentative or insensitive, as I believe that I've made my view clear that a woman has the right to grieve. However, any argument I've ever heard that has been made in favor of abortion says that it's okay because at the point in which you have an abortion, it's not a "baby" yet... but a "cluster of cells". You guys are blowing that out of the water... it seems like none of you really feel that way, but feel that it IS, in fact, a baby... can someone just clear this up for me?? I've always felt that it IS a baby, and that's why I'm pro-life, but I've never really argued with people who are pro-choice here, because it's a difference in where you believe life begins. So I'm just a little confused, now.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23152 posts
Apr 4th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting LEGENDARY JAS ♥:</b>" No. Killing is murder and murder is illegal."</blockquote>




No. Killing is killing. Murder is a legal term.

♥♬♡ 2 kids; Pennsylvania 10385 posts
Apr 4th '13

Yes, but really depends and I'm pro-life

Caydence's mommy 4/4/09 1 child; 2 angel babies; Las Vegas, Nevada 8884 posts
Apr 4th '13

I look at it like this a loss is a loss no matter how it happened and just because a women chooses to have an abortion doesnt mean that she didnt care for or love the child she aborted. So yes she has every right to grieve the child she lost. And for people who think that by making the choice to abort that that women has given up the right to grieve what would you say to someone who had to make the choice to take their child off of life support? Do those parents not have the right to grieve as well because in the end just like with abortion it was a choice made by the parent/parents that resulted in the loss of a child's life?

LIVE.OUT.LOUD Due July 11 (boy); 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Lawrenceville, Georgia 1624 posts
Apr 4th '13

I consider myself pro choice. I personally would never get an abortion but I have no issue with other women who do. Its their body, their decision.



As far as greiving goes I dont think women who get and abortion should grieve. Its a little insulting to me. I had a MC and a friend of mine who had an abortion a while back told me she knows what im going through and she felt the same way after her abortion. That pissed me off. She chose to terminate the pregnancy. I didnt want to lose my child. I didnt have a choice. She did. I understand that making that decision is extremely difficult but if that is what you chose to do then why grieve about it? If you were going to grieve then why not chose adoption? Open adoption?

Big D! Due October 7 (boy); 1 child; Escondido, California 9518 posts
Apr 4th '13
Quoting MommyToWesley:" So you do see getting an abortion as killing a baby?"

It's killing a pregnancy that may have turned into a baby. I refer to my pregnancy right now as "the baby" even though there is no live baby, it's a fetus. So if I were to miscarry it could be an angel baby and if I aborted then I would say I aborted the baby.

MommyToWesley 1 child; Delaware 3847 posts
Apr 4th '13
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kthx. TTC since Mar 2016; 1 child; Harrison, OH, United States 69890 posts
Apr 4th '13
Quoting Asher and Haddie's Mommy:" Okay, I'm not trying to be argumentative or insensitive, as I believe that I've made my view clear that ... [snip!] ... who are pro-choice here, because it's a difference in where you believe life begins. So I'm just a little confused, now. "


I don't believe life begins until they're able to live outside of the womb on their own. Which is after 24 weeks. Losing a baby at 15 weeks is still considered a late term miscarriage, not a still birth. Because they aren't capable of living yet.

Pey and Trista's mommy Due January 5; 3 kids; 2 angel babies; Houston, Texas 42508 posts
Apr 4th '13

Yes! Those who or tortured with even having to make the decision are going to have a hard time and it no one's place to tell anyone when or how to grieve in ANY situation.