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Penalizing employees who don't disclose weight/body fat Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
Mar 20th '13

CVS To Penalize Workers Who Don't Disclose Weight, Body Fat



One of the country's largest pharmacy chains is asking its workers to find out how fat they are and then disclose it to their insurance provider.
Not only is that company, CVS Caremark, telling workers who use its health insurance plan to have a doctor determine their height, weight, body fat, blood pressure and other health indicators. It is also asking workers to give permission to the insurer to turn over that information to a firm that provides benefits support to CVS, the Boston Herald reports.



Workers who don

user banned California 36390 posts
Mar 20th '13

So if they're too fat, they get penalized? That's fucked up.

The Doctor 2 kids; Boulder, CO, United States 60775 posts
Mar 20th '13

I think this is bullshit... I mean, I understand they're all for healthy and "being healthy", so that is good.



But lifestyle choices are no always the reason that someone is thin or large. Nor does weight determine if someone is healthy.

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
Mar 20th '13
Quoting Forrest Bondurant &hearts:" So if they're too fat, they get penalized? That's fucked up. "


In a nutshell, yes.

Ellie. 2 kids; Arizona 25443 posts
Mar 20th '13

I think it's great.... but I think they should give them coaching and TIME to work on themselves before they raise their premiums and penalize them. Everyone should want to get healthier and live longer.

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
Mar 20th '13
Quoting The Doctor:" I think this is bullshit... I mean, I understand they're all for healthy and "being healthy", so that ... [snip!] ... But lifestyle choices are no always the reason that someone is thin or large. Nor does weight determine if someone is healthy."


I'm overweight if you go by BMI but I'm not fat. BMI is not accurate at all.

Ellie. 2 kids; Arizona 25443 posts
Mar 20th '13

I dont think it goes "strictly" off BMI. I think they do a full health assessment. blood pressure, etc

The Doctor 2 kids; Boulder, CO, United States 60775 posts
Mar 20th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:</b>" I think it's great.... but I think they should give them coaching and TIME to work on themselves before ... [snip!] ... work on themselves before they raise their premiums and penalize them. Everyone should want to get healthier and live longer."</blockquote>




But should it be determined by things like BMI? Or by a doctor using their subjective judgement whether someone is healthy or not? I'm just curious, because both seem really... Problematic when I think about it.



Again, the healthy part is great. But it's the either cookie cutter method to determine this, or the fallible human judgement... Both seem a little odd when it comes to this.

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
Mar 20th '13
Quoting ⚓ Sarah ⚓:" Almost everyone I know is overweight according to BMI. My husband is actually considered obese even though he is very fit and muscular."


Everyone carries their weight differently. I understand where they are coming from, wanting to motivate people to be healthy is a good thing, but I feel like this is discrimination.

Viv ♥ 3 kids; ., TX, United States 15325 posts
Mar 20th '13

My job does something similar. If your BMI and finger prick test (all done at the store) came back normal we get $26 off benefits every month.



It's kinda fucked up.

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
Mar 20th '13
Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" I dont think it goes "strictly" off BMI. I think they do a full health assessment. blood pressure, etc"


I have high BP. :(



It's hereditary. I try eat salt-free as much as I can...

The Doctor 2 kids; Boulder, CO, United States 60775 posts
Mar 20th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:</b>" I dont think it goes "strictly" off BMI. I think they do a full health assessment. blood pressure, etc"</blockquote>




Okay, just because this is something from my end I'm curious about. Are they going to penalize someone for having a BMI that is too low? BP that is too low? What if for all intents and purposes according to those tests you should be healthy, but are not? Or are doing everything in your power to be healthy and still not within those parameters?

user banned California 36390 posts
Mar 20th '13

If you're going to penalize the fatties, better penalize women, too. If they get pregnant, that's a huge risk. And old people with high BP or diabetes.

Ellie. 2 kids; Arizona 25443 posts
Mar 20th '13
Quoting The Doctor:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:</b>" I dont think it goes "strictly" off BMI. ... [snip!] ... you should be healthy, but are not? Or are doing everything in your power to be healthy and still not within those parameters?"


That I dont know. I'll have to find more articles to be honest and do more research. I mean.. how much leeway (sp?) will they give. I wonder if just "obese" that they'll penalize for. Maybe smoking, things that will intentionally cause damage, etc.

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
Mar 20th '13

I mean and what about people who aren't all mentally healthy? People with depression/anxiety? I'm in that category too...