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TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23152 posts
Feb 13th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting 10 til Gwen:</b>" I think they must be pretty damn stupid because the max benefit payout starts at $220/mo for a family ... [snip!] ... of 12. I couldn't make my bills for myself and my child with $791 a month, how the f**k are you supposed to provide for 12?"</blockquote>




True, but when you consider the plethora of other programs, LOTS of people are fine with living life at the bottom instead of working their way up.
It's not just the cash portion of welfare that "welfare moms" get.

user banned 3 kids; Ontario 10942 posts
Feb 13th '13

I will answer this from prespective of Canadian welfare.



Most parents or single parents here that recieve welfare also work, as a requierment to recieve welfare, you must be actively looking for work or have a job already. Whatever you earn from your job gets deducted of what welfare gives you.



I do think its wrong for none working families on welfare to be ttc and having more kids. But to those out there that both parents work or are in school to get an education who use welfare what it is intended for, to each their own really.



I know are system works differently then yours, as in we dont get food stamps and its just all cash (well direct deposit into your bank accounts) and so on.

ETA: I know lots of ppl who have been on welfare for a long long time. But they also work fulltime jobs and went to school and are doing the job they trained for, but if its in a field were not enough work or not enough pay, then they need assistance to help out once in a while, I am ok with that.

Here you can go on welfare for 1 month and not get it the next or so on.Like if you made only 600 one month they will help you the next, but in the month that they help you if your hours went up and you made 1500, the next month they dont help and so on.
But being on it long term without trying to help your situation by bettering it, then I am a little more like wtf??? lol

Amelia [a Mom] 1 child; 4 angel babies; Tallahassee, Florida 18492 posts
Feb 13th '13
Quoting kthx.:" She's very bitter. Any kind of assistance thread, she's all over it like fly on shit. "


She is an absolute nutter. I googled her + Baby Gaga once to see if that was really all she ever posts. And it is. Oh and her BFF Jorja Blue...

user banned Lesbos, Greece 95211 posts
Feb 13th '13
Quoting Amelia Margaret:" She is an absolute nutter. I googled her + Baby Gaga once to see if that was really all she ever posts. And it is. Oh and her BFF Jorja Blue..."

I think they type "welfare" or various other terms for it in the BG search bar and then post their rather useless opinions.

Amelia [a Mom] 1 child; 4 angel babies; Tallahassee, Florida 18492 posts
Feb 13th '13
Quoting SAFFY
user banned Lesbos, Greece 95211 posts
Feb 13th '13
Quoting Amelia Margaret:" More than likely. Or he/she refreshes his/her browser every ten minutes looking for one on the side bar. That wouldn't surprise me either."

I'm sure all the effort they put into posting on these threads could be better spent complaining to their senators/representatives if welfare bothers them this much.

κατι 1 child; Memphis, Tennessee 3143 posts
Feb 13th '13
Quoting Susan Schultz:" My first question is if you are on any type of assistance why are you having more kids! I know I can't ... [snip!] ... NOT "entitled" to them......I wish they would cut welfare off it's amazing how people would feed their families if they HAD to."


Just stfu already. You have posted about wanting to be on welfare, I and many others saw the post. :roll: You're just pissed you don't qualify or some dumb shit like that.

Amelia [a Mom] 1 child; 4 angel babies; Tallahassee, Florida 18492 posts
Feb 13th '13
Quoting SAFFY
Vivialopod 2 kids; Vantaa, Finland 42788 posts
Feb 13th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting 10 til Gwen:</b>" I think they must be pretty damn stupid because ... [snip!] ... living life at the bottom instead of working their way up. It's not just the cash portion of welfare that "welfare moms" get."</blockquote>



Not in AZ. They just cut snap down again, housing assistance went last year, daycare assistance has a 3yr waiting list,



I just got off all assistance in October, I was receiving everything available and still had to work 60+ hrs a week to fill in the gaps. At least HERE I don't know how anyone can survive just on state aid.

user banned 1 child; Golden, Colorado 28482 posts
Feb 13th '13
Quoting Susan Schultz:" My first question is if you are on any type of assistance why are you having more kids! I know I can't ... [snip!] ... NOT "entitled" to them......I wish they would cut welfare off it's amazing how people would feed their families if they HAD to."


You are bitching about people getting cereal and meat on food stamps? A birthday cake, oh wow, a once a year occurrence. I HIGHLY doubt you see a great deal of people buying cakes on food stamps. Seriously. And if you b***h about them getting cereal and meat... what are they supposed to eat? Dirt? The scraps thrown out from the deli? Expired boxes of cereal?

Fatty McRunnerPants 2 kids; 4 angel babies; Clearlake, California 59390 posts
Feb 13th '13
Quoting 10 til Gwen:" <blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting 10 til Gwen:</b>" ... [snip!] ... and still had to work 60+ hrs a week to fill in the gaps. At least HERE I don't know how anyone can survive just on state aid."


They do it all the time here. From what I've seen, have cash aid + HUD + foodstamps+ electric/heating assistance, your needs are taken care of! Make a little moola under the table trimming and you're in business :?

justanothamotha Due January 20; 130 kids; Climax, Michigan 5120 posts
Feb 14th '13
Quoting Ms. Danielly Belly:" Ok so ladies and ok just curious to see how you feel about this topic, let me start by saying that because ... [snip!] ... kids. I know it's not right to judge a person unless your in their shoes. But just out if curiosity what's your take on it?"

Unless there are extenuating circumstances (like say someone's fertility is leaving & if they don't TTC now, they won't be able to ever) then I think it is morally & ethically weak to TTC when you can't actually afford to pay for what your children need. I also think more people can afford it than they seem to think,because they get confused between what is "nice to have" and what you actually need. Like babies for instance, so many people are willfully unwilling to even seriously consider cloth diapering. It is MUCH less expensive though. You don't need bouncy seats & all that stuff. It's nice, but totally unnecessary. Kids don't need brand new clothing or all brand names, all the electronics, cable TV or satellite, etc, etc. If people were willing to dial back on the material items in their life, a lot more people COULD afford the needs of a child. I have known far too many mommas that are on a load of assistance that shop retail for themselves & their kids while getting diapers at the baby pantry. It makes me gag. I buy 2nd hand for almost everything (the rare exception is either when I can't find it 2nd hand & I've looked OR underwear/socks) & I have never gotten assistance or needed it in any way. I have my home paid off & cars paid off, etc. If I wanted to be an idiot, I could shop at ANY store I wanted to - but I know it's a total waste of money & that my kids will much prefer a college fund than clothing from Macy's & expensive stupid gadgets they don't need. It is no show of money to be a walking around with your EBT in $200 heels. It just looks trifling.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23152 posts
Feb 14th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting 10 til Gwen:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting 10 til Gwen:</b>" ... [snip!] ... and still had to work 60+ hrs a week to fill in the gaps. At least HERE I don't know how anyone can survive just on state aid."</blockquote>




No more section 8 in AZ?




Here in PA, there are lots and lots of people who do nothing to better themselves and get off of assistance.
For the most part, the people who do that usually have one person in the household that brings in some money. Usually that money is under the table or brings in a few hundred each month.