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GTFOGTFO 6 kids; Italy 5611 posts
Feb 5th '13
Quoting Mrs. Galeforce:" Hes preparing himself for a role. You can see it how he starts getting himself ready. He went from laughing ... [snip!] ... scandals. Its pointless to try and convince anyone of anything, you all will just have to do some real research yourselves."


Oh, trust me... I've done the research and I'm way more involved in my state government than most people. I live in a VERY conservative state and I started a protest group that started on Facebook and turned into real-life protests at the capital with a HUGE turn out that ultimately helped get the Personhood bill shelved when we were completely outnumbered. I'm not just some, "I TRUST THE MEDIA!" retard.



What I'm trying to get across to you is that I'm far from a "sheeple", and it's actually insulting to someone that is more involved than these people claiming they are somehow "in the know" of the government when they don't do shit about ANYTHING politically. THEN, they somehow feel they have the superiority of knowledge on how a mourning parent's f**king grief should or shouldn't look like.



It's just amazing to me all these people with their dumb shit theories, yet you NEVER see THOSE people doing anything when we are out there protesting, calling our reps and senators, reading all the bills coming out and spreading with word. They're never there face to face talking to their state government officials, so how the f**k do they know what's REALLY going on in the government if their not even physically involved? Instead, they are sitting on their ass doing "internet research" and watch some extreme conspiracy a*****e on YouTube trying to make the crazy paranoia shit in their head make sense.

Amelia [a Mom] 1 child; 4 angel babies; Tallahassee, Florida 18492 posts
Feb 5th '13

What I find hard to understand is why people are so willing to completely suspend logical thinking and disbelief to be grasping at straws like the parents didn't behave appropriately in a situation most have never experienced themselves.

GTFOGTFO 6 kids; Italy 5611 posts
Feb 5th '13
Quoting Amelia Margaret:" What I find hard to understand is why people are so willing to completely suspend logical thinking and ... [snip!] ... to be grasping at straws like the parents didn't behave appropriately in a situation most have never experienced themselves."


Right? It's f**king disgusting, really. "Oh, he was preparing himself to get into character." Was he?! Or maybe, his baby girl was just murdered. Perhaps he was nervous, scared, and depressed. Why do people think it's so f**king crazy for him to laugh and gather his thoughts, that were probably reaching the brink of insanity, before he went on camera in front of the entire f**king world?



Maybe someone said something funny? Maybe he was sharing a memory that made him laugh? Maybe it was a defense mechanism so he wouldn't lose it on camera?



Bottom line, why the f**k does it even matter when it's not an uncommon response to grief in the first place? I just don't understand the audacity of some people....

Amelia [a Mom] 1 child; 4 angel babies; Tallahassee, Florida 18492 posts
Feb 5th '13
Quoting -Kaysay-:" Right? It's f**king disgusting, really. "Oh, he was preparing himself to get into character." Was he?! ... [snip!] ... matter when it's not an uncommon response to grief in the first place? I just don't understand the audacity of some people...."


And honestly, who has the energy to be crying 24/7? I don't think that's reasonable at all.

Booger & Bubba's Mommy 18 kids; Illinois 8136 posts
Feb 5th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Mrs. Galeforce:</b>" Hes preparing himself for a role. You can see it how he starts getting himself ready. He went from laughing ... [snip!] ... scandals. Its pointless to try and convince anyone of anything, you all will just have to do some real research yourselves."</blockquote>




Looking into libor wouldn't make sense. Mainstream media isn't covering it therefore it doesn't exist.
Looking into the psychotropic drugs all the recent shooters were on isn't logical, for goodness sake they were prescribed. It's not like major mood altering drugs could be the key.

Booger & Bubba's Mommy 18 kids; Illinois 8136 posts
Feb 5th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting -Kaysay-:</b>" Right? It's f**king disgusting, really. "Oh, he was preparing himself to get into character." Was he?! ... [snip!] ... matter when it's not an uncommon response to grief in the first place? I just don't understand the audacity of some people...."</blockquote>




Yes he could have been upset.



The audacity is believing everything you are told. Instead of looking further, researching or just not being completely gullible.



I'm not saying it didn't happen. Just that all the people in front of the cameras aren't to be believed as 100% factual. Several have been proven to have SAG memberships several have been tied to different government cover ups.




It is being used to further the agenda of the anti gun lobbiests. Why ban high capacity clips? Were any used? NO. Why ban assault rifles? Were any used? NO why ban conceal carry?

GTFOGTFO 6 kids; Italy 5611 posts
Feb 5th '13
Quoting Booger & Bubba's Mommy:" <blockquote><b>Quoting -Kaysay-:</b>" Right? It's f**king disgusting, really. "Oh, ... [snip!] ... lobbiests. Why ban high capacity clips? Were any used? NO. Why ban assault rifles? Were any used? NO why ban conceal carry?"


I'm assuming you didn't read my above post? I'm FAR from believing anything. I started a group that has held protests at the capitol, have spoke to our senators, we've helped overturn bills, I'm constantly e-mailing and calling my officials. I don't believe our government for SHIT, because I talk to them myself.



Saying the shooting was a conspiracy is horse shit and fucked up. The government is totally using the tragedy to their advantage, but to say it was "staged" just shows how unaware all of you are.

Fat-and-Happy TTC since Mar 2008; 1 child; Texas 13915 posts
Feb 5th '13

Found this on tumblr... reminded me of this debate



tumblr_mgw6zqRbev1qdml1do1_500.jpgI was speaking with a Black friend of mine earlier today about this and he brought up a great point. The Elite, White media can literally stir an entire Nation into a frenzy over the massacre of 20 suburban white children but simply overlook the deaths of over 100 Black children in Chicago. Wake up, People, you re being played by the Government and the Media. All children should be equal in the eyes of our Government.

Booger & Bubba's Mommy 18 kids; Illinois 8136 posts
Feb 5th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting -Kaysay-:</b>" I'm assuming you didn't read my above post? I'm FAR from believing anything. I started a group that ... [snip!] ... government is totally using the tragedy to their advantage, but to say it was "staged" just shows how unaware all of you are."</blockquote>



I'm not saying it was staged. I'm saying it is being way overused to the lobbiests advantage.
All the facts & truths will never come out. Too many things don't add up or are altered to suit someone's agendas.



Many people are way to offended by people not believing everything as truth cause someone they "know" was affected. It's not about them. It's about the truth not what the government wants the American peoe to believe.

GTFOGTFO 6 kids; Italy 5611 posts
Feb 5th '13
Quoting Fat-and-Happy:" Found this on tumblr... reminded me of this debate I was speaking with a Black friend of mine earlier ... [snip!] ... up, People, you re being played by the Government and the Media. All children should be equal in the eyes of our Government."


They pick and choose what to broadcast based on the agenda. In their eyes, the Sandy Hook tragedy was great timing for them to start up the gun control bull shit. But what people don't realize is that this shit happens day after day.



I just posted in another thread this morning about how the U.S. is so incredibly sheltered in comparison to the majority of the other countries. Our people do not know shit about what is going on, so they are left to their imaginations and come up with crazy shit.

GTFOGTFO 6 kids; Italy 5611 posts
Feb 5th '13
Quoting Booger & Bubba's Mommy:" <blockquote><b>Quoting -Kaysay-:</b>" I'm assuming you didn't read my above post? ... [snip!] ... they "know" was affected. It's not about them. It's about the truth not what the government wants the American peoe to believe."


I agree with you on that... they are totally using it to their advantage. But I think people are way to overly analytical on how the situation played out. It was a bat-shit crazy situation... of course there is going to be mix-ups and false reports.

Booger & Bubba's Mommy 18 kids; Illinois 8136 posts
Feb 5th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Fat-and-Happy:</b>" Found this on tumblr... reminded me of this debate I was speaking with a Black friend of mine earlier ... [snip!] ... up, People, you re being played by the Government and the Media. All children should be equal in the eyes of our Government."</blockquote>




That's like the girl (Hyidia) that was just killed at the end of Jan. She was one of 40 killed in Jan alone. Yet many groups are calling on Potus to attend her funeral. Why? She was an honor student & had just attended the inauguration. Why is her life more important than the 39others that died. Even the Governer just visited with her family, but not the other 39 families.



The media isn't covering the events that are stopped by law abiding citizens with a conceal carry permit.

Destinite 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Paradise, FL, United States 35130 posts
Feb 5th '13
Quoting Fat-and-Happy:" Found this on tumblr... reminded me of this debate I was speaking with a Black friend of mine earlier ... [snip!] ... up, People, you re being played by the Government and the Media. All children should be equal in the eyes of our Government."


Sadly, there is so much of it going on it is impossible to cover every single shooting death of children. All of it bothers me. I care very much when a child is harmed or killed & lately it seems like there is no end to it. It is very depressing and I really worry for my son even though we live in a low crime area.
I support gun control and regulation that Obama is trying to push forward and I don't care for him, nor did I vote for him.
I don't feel so paranoid that someone is going to show up at my house to confiscate the many guns we own, which are responsibly locked up and out of reach of our child.
I also worry about my sister in law, who currently lives in Chicago. I will be very happy when she moves back home.
Something has to change. We can't stick our heads in the sand and do nothing & think something will change on its own.



Fat-and-Happy TTC since Mar 2008; 1 child; Texas 13915 posts
Feb 5th '13

There also wasn't massive media coverage of the theater shooting in San Antonio. An off duty officer took out the gunman.



http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/sanantonio.asp

Donna Jo Tanner 1 child; Beach Haven, New Jersey 6440 posts
Mar 12th '13

I'm imbetween on this. Like how the f**k would the government be able to convince a whole town to keep their traps shut? Everyone in that school would have to be actors or extremely high paid to not spill the beans on how this parent was an actor or that parent wasnt really his/hers. But I also believe the government uses these tragedies for their agendas. Also think the media is stacked in the governments favor and there are things they dont tell us. You'd have to be a moron to say 100% either way.