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*Mary Moon* 1 child; New York 3606 posts
Jan 31st '13
Quoting Booger & Bubba's Mommy:" Yes people can use different names for nicknames. This video is just one persons opinion on what happened. ... [snip!] ... for the citizens who are against the government. Wake up sheeple. Stop watching mainstream news & do some real research."

So there is no correlation between the drugs the shooters are taking and the fact they may be or are mentally ill, therefore needing the drugs and not guns and gun control is being addressed in part because there needs to be stricter limitations on mentally ill people having access to guns?? I am bi-polar, have anxiety and general depression, I have had to and still do take alot of medications for my symptoms. I can go from happy to absolutely besides myself in sadness in minutes. If I were someone else I wouldn't want me to have a gun either. I don't evaluate myself as a risk but everyone is different and someone else who has mood swings or depression or a personality disorder or WHATEVER reason that they take the drugs, may not be safe with a gun.



Hey, just saying... Adam lanza was speculated to have mental illness and jerod lee loughner was said to be schizophrenic. But I must have imagined this, because if the media didn't tell me they might have been or were mentally ill...who did?! Spooky eh?
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And to address the whole government agenda side of gun control debates and how the media is being a pawn to rile up america.. Is that such a bad thing? It effects everyone and there are people who DO want it addressed. My dad owns a riffle that was bought by my friends brother after a 24 hour waiting period at walmart. He decided to go buy a gun there, went out to the parking lot and had a standoff with the police while he contemplated shooting himself. He was arrested, and the gun was turned over to my dad. Every time I look at that gun I remember that he could have killed himself or others, and that gun should have NEVER made its way into his hands.

Booger & Bubba's Mommy 18 kids; Illinois 8136 posts
Jan 31st '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting *Mary Moon*:</b>" So there is no correlation between the drugs the shooters are taking and the fact they may be or are ... [snip!] ... at that gun I remember that he could have killed himself or others, and that gun should have NEVER made its way into his hands."</blockquote>




No I'm saying there is a huge correlation between the drugs & the guns. I'm all for logical gun control, including psychological evaluations.



I know the shooting happened, not saying it didn't. It's all the bullshit that comes afterwards. There are many links to put aurora & Newtown together. To many doppelg

......... nowhere, NW, United States 25972 posts
Jan 31st '13
Quoting Booger & Bubba's Mommy:" That's the stupidest video I have seen. Sally isn't a nickname for Sara for f**ks sake. That's how he addresses the gun issue??? He sounds like a sheeple."


And you are who to say how she got her nick name?



My niece's name is Gloria, her nickname is Bella. Not related, but you see, it doesn't have to be.

......... nowhere, NW, United States 25972 posts
Jan 31st '13
Quoting Booger & Bubba's Mommy:" That's the stupidest video I have seen. Sally isn't a nickname for Sara for f**ks sake. That's how he addresses the gun issue??? He sounds like a sheeple."


All these conspiracy theorists seem like sheeple to the NRA to me.

......... nowhere, NW, United States 25972 posts
Jan 31st '13
Quoting Booger & Bubba's Mommy:" Yes people can use different names for nicknames. This video is just one persons opinion on what happened. ... [snip!] ... for the citizens who are against the government. Wake up sheeple. Stop watching mainstream news & do some real research."


That's one of his points, the media does not always report the truth. They're too quick to run a story without checking facts.



And there has been a movement on or mental healthcare availability too. Groups like 1MM want not only gun control but help for mentally ill people too. And tighter regulations so those ill people can't have guns, which they shouldn't.

Tarynosaurus Rex San Antonio, Texas 1271 posts
Jan 31st '13

I know a guy who went out drunk as a f**king skunk one night and bought a gun just for the hell of it. I live in Texas where there are basically NO gun regulations. This idiot was allowed to buy a gun WHILE INTOXICATED right there on the spot with no background check or anything. That is not okay with me.

user banned 1 child; Golden, Colorado 28482 posts
Jan 31st '13

As for the names, yeah, a lot of people use different names. My grandfather went by Samuel, his real name is (I may be butchering this name, I cant think of the Hebrew spelling) is Schlermechel.



But a lot of my friends are going insane saying that this is a conspiracy. Call me a "Sheeple," I call you a f**king idiot to believe the conspiracy theories people cook up. It's just like how they say the Aurora shooting was a conspiracy too. That shit makes me even more irate.

Mrs. Galeforce Due October 11; TTC since Apr 2013; 1 child; 2 angel babies; Colorado springs, CO, United States 2507 posts
Feb 4th '13

Ive done a lot of research on the recent shootings and Ive came across a lot of discrepencies in the stories. Even in the Batman shooting last July. There is a lot of questions that still remain unanswered.
I could tell when I watched the live coverage that something wasnt right. These people all looked like actors. I never once seen one of them cry.
When I seen this on the news I knew something wasnt right.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMINqFGNr-w



After seeing this Father that just lost his daughter, smiling and laughing, I knew this wasnt right. the way he was prepping himself for the camera.




Id say DO ACTUAL research and QUESTION more.
Sheeple = People that dont question what they hear.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhLe2i8uFwc

Destinite 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Paradise, FL, United States 35133 posts
Feb 4th '13

People grieve in different ways. You never know how you'd truly react until it happens to you. I predict I would be a basket case. I hope that never happens!

GTFOGTFO 6 kids; Italy 5611 posts
Feb 4th '13
Quoting Mrs. Galeforce:" Ive done a lot of research on the recent shootings and Ive came across a lot of discrepencies in the ... [snip!] ...


I've lost a TON of people in my life, but two years ago, within months of each other, I lost two really close friends and my cousin. They were all in their 20's and all deaths were to completely separate, yet all horribly tragic, deaths. The only time I cried was when I was alone, but even then, I didn't cry much.



Death takes a huge psychological toll on people. Who gives a f**k if the dad was laughing? What does that even mean? My aunt was laughing hysterically with my us just HOURS after we found out her daughter was killed. She would laugh, cry, laugh, cry. We even threw a huge booze-fest of a party in celebration of her life three days later, and there was LOTS of laughter going on. Who the f**k are you, or anyone for that matter, to judge how someone is processing their child's/loved one's death?

GTFOGTFO 6 kids; Italy 5611 posts
Feb 4th '13
Quoting Ravey Candyass:" <blockquote><b>Quoting -Kaysay-:</b>" I've lost a TON of people in my life, but two ... [snip!] ... His sister mother and I laughed. We all laughed hysterically does that mean we didn't cry too? Or that we dont miss him? No."


Exactly. I question, dislike, and do not trust the government as much as the next guy, but this Sandy Hook conspiracy shit has gone too far. Yeah, the media jumps in and reports false shit ALL the time for views and ratings. But now people are making a mockery of these dead kids and it's f**king twisted.

user banned 1 child; Golden, Colorado 28482 posts
Feb 4th '13
Quoting Mrs. Galeforce:" Ive done a lot of research on the recent shootings and Ive came across a lot of discrepencies in the ... [snip!] ... research and QUESTION more. Sheeple = People that dont question what they hear. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhLe2i8uFwc"


Wait.... you are one of the idiots that thinks the Aurora shooting was a conspiracy too? That the live coverage wasn't right... and they are f**king actors? You are a f**king MORON.



I guess my friends 12 year old son was an actor. So is my friend. Should I go dig up her posts about narrowly escaping death that night, and the fact she was thanking God her son had the wit to get out safely without questioning? Oh, I wont dig them up, she is probably just acting :p



As for people saying crap about laughing after someone close to you dies... my friend passed away and he was supposed to play at a rave a week later. We still threw that party in his honor and played a CD of his during his time slot. His family came. We were all laughing, hugging each other, and even his parents were laughing with us and said "Now we know why Taustin loved you all so much." The day of the funeral I LOST it. Guess who comforted me? His sister. She was smiling and telling me about what a craphead her brother was and how he kept the family on their toes. People grieve differently... and you know what, it's lovely to laugh in the name of grief. Sometimes laughing is all you can do in order to keep sane.

user banned 1 child; Golden, Colorado 28482 posts
Feb 4th '13
Quoting LeTs*StArT*a*RiOt!:" I love you. I had to post on here to say that. I love how you said that and I love the points you made. People who like to make these conspiracy theories make me sick... "


Thank you :) I have a friend that I have been really irritated by lately. He posts conspiracy theory shit ALL the time. Posting stuff dating back to Columbine, and I remember that day as if it were yesterday. The Aurora shooting... to sign onto facebook and see a post that says "I almost died last night. My son could have been killed. I dont know if there is a God or not but something saved the entire group last night" and then see all the updates about the theater... it makes me SICK for people to say it was a conspiracy. Especially since she said she has to go into therapy. How she heard a car backfire and flipped. How she sat through a movie and couldnt pay attention because of what happened. Yes, I guess my friend was soooooo part of the conspiracy, her posts are to keep us on our toes!!! ARGH people are so dumb! I mean really, my friend posts shit and calls us "sheeple" too, but ya know, I say they are the sheep to run to the conspiracy bandwagon.



And to say someone doesnt grieve right... ugh. Seriously, having a party in my friends honor was what helped us get through that shit hole. He was the glue to our family... our family of friends. And we were DESTROYED. So we had to laugh. We had to smile. Otherwise we would of wanted to off ourselves in grief. I dont think you honor someone when you are sad your entire life and destroy your life in grief. Celebrate their life, don't mourn the loss, be thankful you had them in your life. There is a poem on my friends headstone and one of the lines is "And what is left, merely a memory." Let the memories rule you and make you smile... because the memories ARE what's left when someone is gone. Be glad the memories are there! Id be sad if I didnt have those precious moments in my life. I miss all of those that have left this life but ya know what, the memories are lovely and they keep me sane. So I smile. That's all you can do, that's all we should do.



I'd be destroyed if Lily were to pass away, but if I could think about times like her fingerpainting with yogurt in her room... coloring over the carebear mural I painted with some crayons she stashed in her crib and her saying "Mommy look color!" or her first choir solo... I'd have to smile at those. That would help me get by... and I hope if anything did happen to her I'd honor her by smiling and telling the world of what a lovely lady she was... and not dwell on how badly I hurt inside.

Mrs. Galeforce Due October 11; TTC since Apr 2013; 1 child; 2 angel babies; Colorado springs, CO, United States 2507 posts
Feb 5th '13
Quoting -Kaysay-:" I've lost a TON of people in my life, but two years ago, within months of each other, I lost two really ... [snip!] ... going on. Who the f**k are you, or anyone for that matter, to judge how someone is processing their child's/loved one's death?"


Hes preparing himself for a role. You can see it how he starts getting himself ready. He went from laughing and smiling to saying, "okay" and then changing his whole demeanor to a sad state.
This is just one of the many things that just dont add up right.
Its also pretty ironic that both of the shooters Fathers from the recent shootings, Batman and Sandy hook, BOTH are to go on trail for a huge scandal called the LIBOR scandal. Its a real thing, read into the LIBOR scandals.



Its pointless to try and convince anyone of anything, you all will just have to do some real research yourselves.

Capt Plzen, Pl, Czech Republic 9110 posts
Feb 5th '13

The word sheeple was used entirely too much in this thread. :x