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whitney ♥ ainsley 1 child; New Hampshire 16454 posts
Jan 12th '13
Quoting Taryn - Anya's mommy:" Thank you and unfortunately yes he did. I just wish he would have talked to someone. The reason we see ... [snip!] ... Thankfully the way he did it, was a calm scene......he did it by asphyxiation by helium, it was just like he went to sleep."


Talking to someone doesn't always help though. I was taking handfuls of pills while I was on the phone with a friend. My situation was much different, but I couldn't see getting angry at someone for doing what they felt they needed to do to get rid of the pain.

Vodka Knockers 1 child; North Carolina 8096 posts
Jan 12th '13

I feel like when people are in a situation where they're thinking of committing suicide, they're not in a viable mindset to understand whether or not they're being selfish, so my opinion there is neutral.
I have tried to kill myself SEVERAL times and only a few times did I willingly seek medical attention to prevent death, just because I snapped out of it. I spent years being treated AND medicated as manic depressive bipolar, schizoeffective disorder, schizophrenia, just random bullshit that they would throw a pill at. Come to find out, I have Borderline Personality Disorder and it's completely manageable with therapy and WITHOUT medication.
Had I been diagnosed properly and not put on medication that made my situation worse, I probably wouldn't have as many suicide attempts on my record as I do.

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
Jan 12th '13

From a mentally healthy outsider's perspective, yes, it is very selfish.



From a person's perspective who is struggling with depression and thinks the world would be much better off without them, no, it's actually selfless in their mind.

624582 Neilton, Washington 9312 posts
Jan 12th '13

Do you believe it's selfish when someone commits suicide?
Yes and no.



If yes, have you ever tried to kill yourself, or do you know someone that did?
My father killed himself and my mother always threatens it.

Do you think if someone didn't succeed in killing themselves they didn't really want to die?
It depends.

If you've tried to kill yourself, do you have a mental illness?
No, but I'm sure I have a mental illness of some sort.

Rain (aka Mama) 3 kids; Monroe, Georgia 6503 posts
Jan 12th '13
Quoting whitney ♥ ainsley:" Talking to someone doesn't always help though. I was taking handfuls of pills while I was on the phone ... [snip!] ... much different, but I couldn't see getting angry at someone for doing what they felt they needed to do to get rid of the pain. "


I agree. I don't think anyone has the right to be angry at someone for it. Yes, it sucks for those left behind. Yes, it hurts. But you have to realize that they weren't thinking clearly. It wasn't about us (they left us, they didn't care, etc). It was about them. They just needed the pain to end.

Thorian's Mommy TTC since Jan 2016; 1 child; 1 angel baby; Westbrook, ME, United States 8459 posts
Jan 12th '13

Technically it is selfish but i dont judge them for it. I thought about suicide alot when i was a tween-teen. I was being abused by a family member and suffered from depression. In my mind at the time no one could possibly understand what i was going through and no one would believe me. To me, suicide was the only way out and to stop the pain.
I now know suicide is wrong but i can undertand why someone who is going through certain situations can do it

624582 Neilton, Washington 9312 posts
Jan 12th '13
Quoting Rain (aka Mama):" I agree. I don't think anyone has the right to be angry at someone for it. Yes, it sucks for those left ... [snip!] ... clearly. It wasn't about us (they left us, they didn't care, etc). It was about them. They just needed the pain to end. "


Disagree. I believe that I have every right to be angry with my father. Not because he wanted the pain to end, but because he left me behind, because he never got to see his first grandchild, because he is missing out on so much. Anger is a normal part of the grieving process. He was selfish, I am selfish, that is just the way it works.

whitney ♥ ainsley 1 child; New Hampshire 16454 posts
Jan 12th '13
Quoting Vodka Knockers:" I feel like when people are in a situation where they're thinking of committing suicide, they're not ... [snip!] ... and not put on medication that made my situation worse, I probably wouldn't have as many suicide attempts on my record as I do."


Yeah I was off my meds for a few days, and all of a sudden, it just wasn't me anymore. It was almost like I wanted to stop, but couldn't. I don't know if that makes sense, but hearing about my boss saying it's selfish right after she found out I was inpatient, rubbed me the wrong way.

The Master Due September 8; 2 kids; Perth, Australia 20023 posts
Jan 12th '13

No I don't think its selfish. I've had 14 suicide attempts in the past and suicidal thoughts at least once a day. Its a mental illness, not something I'm doing to be selfish.

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
Jan 12th '13
Quoting Destiel:" No I don't think its selfish. I've had 14 suicide attempts in the past and suicidal thoughts at least once a day. Its a mental illness, not something I'm doing to be selfish."


Goddamn. Are you okay now?

The Master Due September 8; 2 kids; Perth, Australia 20023 posts
Jan 12th '13
Quoting bbbt:" Goddamn. Are you okay now? "


depends on the day.

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
Jan 12th '13
Quoting Destiel:" depends on the day."


:(

The Master Due September 8; 2 kids; Perth, Australia 20023 posts
Jan 12th '13
Quoting bbbt:" :("


I've been this way as long as I can remember ... suicide and suicidal ideations are just a part of my daily routine.

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
Jan 12th '13
Quoting Destiel:" I've been this way as long as I can remember ... suicide and suicidal ideations are just a part of my daily routine."


Why do you think that is?

The Master Due September 8; 2 kids; Perth, Australia 20023 posts
Jan 12th '13
Quoting bbbt:" Why do you think that is? "


I have Borderline Personality Disorder, General Anxiety Disorder, Panic Disorder, and I'm a recovering hoarder. I honestly couldn't tell you where it all stems from.