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Fat-and-Happy TTC since Mar 2008; 1 child; Texas 13915 posts
Nov 26th '12
Quoting *Noah&Presley'sMommy*:" well be happy all you want. At least I'll be happy living alot longer then someone who doesnt take ... [snip!] ... take care of themselves:) AND yes, in previous things you have said you calorie count and eat very healthy. You lie alot."


I counted calories in the form a weight watcher points back in the day (a few years ago) but not since I adopted the principles.



ETA: HAES Principles... guess I just skipped that part lol

Ellie. 2 kids; Arizona 25443 posts
Nov 26th '12
Quoting Fat-and-Happy:" I counted calories in the form a weight watcher points back in the day (a few years ago) but not since I adopted the principles."


What principles?

Fat-and-Happy TTC since Mar 2008; 1 child; Texas 13915 posts
Nov 26th '12
Quoting *Noah&Presley'sMommy*:" exactly. And ESPECIALLY when health is involved. And I have told her before if she tried to get that ... [snip!] ... TTC for 5 years. But she doesnt want to hear it. Trust me. Gtting pregnant with Presley was soooo much easier then with Noah."


Was it you that got nominated for c**t punt for that statement?

Ellie. 2 kids; Arizona 25443 posts
Nov 26th '12
Quoting Fat-and-Happy:" Was it you that got nominated for c**t punt for that statement?"


How would that get someone nominated for that? Its the truth. Women who are overweight have a harder time conceiving.. it's pretty much fact.

Fat-and-Happy TTC since Mar 2008; 1 child; Texas 13915 posts
Nov 26th '12
Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" What principles?"


Basically:



How can you become Healthy at Every Size?
HAES acknowledges that well-being and healthy habits are more important than any number on the scale. Participating is simple:
1. Accept your size. Love and appreciate the body you have. Self-acceptance empowers you to move on and make positive changes.
2. Trust yourself. We all have internal systems designed to keep us healthy

Fat-and-Happy TTC since Mar 2008; 1 child; Texas 13915 posts
Nov 26th '12
Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" How would that get someone nominated for that? Its the truth. Women who are overweight have a harder time conceiving.. it's pretty much fact."


I didn't nominate her someone else did. I guess it was the tone because it really offended the person who nominated her.

Taryn - Anya's mommy 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Toronto, Ontario 49464 posts
Nov 26th '12
Quoting *Noah&Presley'sMommy*:" well after i had my 3 1/2 year old I lost 150 lbs. Then I got preggo with my daughter. I gained a ... [snip!] ... just becasue I could only eat carbs, everything else came back up,. After having her I'm down almost 30 and still going!!!!!!!"

Thats amazing!!!

Taryn - Anya's mommy 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Toronto, Ontario 49464 posts
Nov 26th '12
Quoting *Noah&Presley'sMommy*:" lol! I do think being heavier has something to do with having issues getting pregnant! Alot of women dont understand that and how it works."

I can vouch for this totally. I had secondary infertility, I had no problems conceiving my angel baby and my oldest daughter, but it took us 4 years to conceive my youngest, the difference between my first 2 and my last one, almost 90 lbs. So I worked on losing weight and I lost 20 lbs and we did our 4th and final IUI, and that was the successful one, and I think it had a lot to do with me finally conceiving, I would have continued to lose weight if that one wouldn't have worked

Ellie. 2 kids; Arizona 25443 posts
Nov 26th '12
Quoting Fat-and-Happy:" Basically: How can you become Healthy at Every Size? HAES acknowledges that well-being and healthy ... [snip!] ... Geographic Article but I've read a lot of scholarly journal articles covering related research and Dr. Linda Bacon's book too."


I agree with some of these but seriously...?? Eat pleasurable and satisfying foods? Personally, I find chips and chocolate bars satisfying and pleasurable, but if I just eat those until I get full... I'm going to gain weight. Period.

There are serious flaws in the principles. If one has shown little self control in the past and gotten to the point where they are obese, telling them to not be accountable for that by watching their fat and caloric intake is... just irresponsible.

Taryn - Anya's mommy 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Toronto, Ontario 49464 posts
Nov 26th '12
Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" I agree with some of these but seriously...?? Eat pleasurable and satisfying foods? Personally, I ... [snip!] ... they are obese, telling them to not be accountable for that by watching their fat and caloric intake is... just irresponsible."

Truly in the long run, it is not healthy to be obese, no matter how you slice it. DH got diabetes from his weight gain, he has lost some weight, and he may be able to get rid of his diabetes totally. There are so many risk factors in being obese, it puts a strain on your heart, on your lungs, and with that it makes your blood pressure higher.

Ellie. 2 kids; Arizona 25443 posts
Nov 26th '12
Quoting Taryn - Anya's mommy:" Truly in the long run, it is not healthy to be obese, no matter how you slice it. DH got diabetes from ... [snip!] ... risk factors in being obese, it puts a strain on your heart, on your lungs, and with that it makes your blood pressure higher."


Couldnt agree more! This is why I went on a quest and lost my weight. I didn't want to put myself at risk for any illnesses. If not now, then later on. Who knows the damage I've already done. :(

Fat-and-Happy TTC since Mar 2008; 1 child; Texas 13915 posts
Nov 26th '12
Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" I agree with some of these but seriously...?? Eat pleasurable and satisfying foods? Personally, I ... [snip!] ... they are obese, telling them to not be accountable for that by watching their fat and caloric intake is... just irresponsible."


Did you read the article that it was accompanied with? It way more complex than the little bullet pointed list. There's an entire book about it and it outlines which foods are detrimental to health. Focusing on "good" food and "bad" food triggers many disordered eaters and can lead to binge eating, especially in restricted eaters. It just encourages individuals to trust themselves to make choices that are best for them by giving them control over their food choices. Sure, crap tastes good but it makes you feel like crap. Once you learn to listen to your body and discover what makes it feel good and what doesn't, you are better equipped to make healthier food choices.



Here is a snippet from the article:

Taryn - Anya's mommy 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Toronto, Ontario 49464 posts
Nov 26th '12
Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" Couldnt agree more! This is why I went on a quest and lost my weight. I didn't want to put myself at risk for any illnesses. If not now, then later on. Who knows the damage I've already done. :("

DH and I have started eating healthier and exercising, we both want to be around for a long time. He said his first goal is to be around long enough to walk his little girl down the aisle. He is almost 49, and his dad died young, and he is afraid that is something he won't be able to do, but he is making the right steps to try to be there.

Fat-and-Happy TTC since Mar 2008; 1 child; Texas 13915 posts
Nov 26th '12
Quoting Taryn - Anya's mommy:" Truly in the long run, it is not healthy to be obese, no matter how you slice it. DH got diabetes from ... [snip!] ... risk factors in being obese, it puts a strain on your heart, on your lungs, and with that it makes your blood pressure higher."


I think obesity and diabetes are definitely linked but I feel that the weight gain is part of the disease process in certain individuals. The body becomes ineffecient at using sugar in the body which drives up insulin levels, which initiate fat storage. I think diet change is extremely important. I have normal blood sugar now, but it was bordering insulin resistance. By changing my diet and taking gymnema, my fasting blood sugar is now typically in the 80's.

Ellie. 2 kids; Arizona 25443 posts
Nov 26th '12
Quoting Fat-and-Happy:" Did you read the article that it was accompanied with? It way more complex than the little bullet pointed ... [snip!] ... body function best and to keep you most alert and in a good mood. Experiment with food to see which ones make you feel best.""


I shouldnt even be on the computer at all, so I dont have much time to read a whole article.

But if you followed those principles and listened to your body, wouldnt you have SOME weight loss?